Romney with Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax

There was a time in which Mitt Romney ran for the Republican party nominee for President of the United States of America. During some of this time during the campaign there was one narrative taken against Mitt Romney about him showing his tax returns. In showing these tax returns they would see where he got his money, since Romney is said to be a wealthy person, and also to see how much of his money was taken by the federal government or state governments and at what rate he was taxed by these agencies.

It was found that Mitt Romney had no income for an income tax to apply to, but he did have a capital gains for a capital gains tax to apply. These are both taxes, but they are not one and the same type of taxes. Like Baltimore and Annapolis are in the state of Maryland & Baltimore and Annapolis are different from one another, so too are Income and Capital Gains both Taxes, Income and Capital Gains are different from one another. Income Taxes and Capital Gains Taxes are categorically different from one another. They specifically apply to things that meet certain criterion, and these criterion differentiate on where they apply and where they do not apply. It would be similar to how you have a fork and a spoon, and they come in a set of silverware. They are both equal in being silverware, but the fork is not the spoon and the spoon is not the fork, but silverware fork and silverware spoon are silverware.

So what is the problem? Here is one article talking about the difference from an economist. Here is a reply, in some sense, to the first article.

The first point, and most important point, which the Supreme Court has said itself, which is that the power to tax is the power to destroy. The first article points out the difference between an income tax and a capital gains tax. So these are different powers of destruction being applied to two different sub groups.

“What is a capital gain, and how can we distinguish it from ordinary income? The answer seems simple. If you have a job, the money you are paid for your work is ordinary income. If you buy an asset at one time and sell it later for a higher price, the profit you made from holding it is a capital gain.”

These are two different types of actions that individuals have with one another. One person works for another and gets paid for this work and gets taxed for their work. Another person sells a property for more than it was previously worth and makes a profit that is taxed. So we notice two different types of activity and how the government is taxing these activities. What is noticed is that those people who partake in the activity of capital gains get taxed at a percentage of 15%, and those who partake in the activity of income activity are getting taxed at a percentage of 35%.

Now some of the issues that people had were that Mitt Romney did not pay the income tax rate, but he payed the capital gains tax rate. One of these rates was lower than the other. This does not exactly appear to be what people were upset itself, since it appeared that people were upset about the first but that Mitt Romney is also a wealthy person who is considered to be part of the 1%. It was both of these conditions that made it so that people looked down upon Romney for not being forced to give up 35% of his property by being forced to give up 15% of his property, based on his activities with other people. Mitt Romney followed the law by paying the taxes his taxes based on his activities, which were not in the category of income but in the category of capital gains, even though either which way he would have been taxed. He just didn’t have to be taxed in one way over another, in which one happened to be less than another.

Now let me ask you, does it appear to be wrong that certain activities should be taxed less than other activities? For example, say that we have someone who partakes in activities which harm 49 people out of 50 people, and we have someone who partakes in activities which harm 1 person out of 50 people. Which activity, if both of these activities are legal, would you think one should be taxed more than another? Remember, the ability to tax some activity is the ability to destroy that activity.

The question becomes which activity do we want to be taxed, and how much do we want to tax that activity? Either income has a higher tax rate than capital gains, or income has a lower tax rate than capital gains, or income tax rate is equal to capital gains. If income has higher rate than capital gains, then government is giving less incentive for income activities. If income has a lower tax rate than capital rates, then government is giving more incentive for income activities. If income tax rate is equal to capital gains, then government is giving equal incentive for both activities Thus, either government is giving less incentive for income activities, or government is given more incentive for income activities, or government is giving equal incentive for both activities.

The question becomes, which tax bracket do you want to destroy? Do you want to destroy the activity of capital gains or income? When people ask for a tax increase, they want to destroy people or prevent the activities of people. So those people who are considered to be wealthy are people we want to destroy by making them give up more of their property. But this also holds with those people who are not wealthy.

Now if we want to treat people equally, give them all the same shot, have the same rules apply, then make them equal in their activities. A person gets a shot at either income activity or capital gains activity. Not everyone is built for income activity or capital gains activity. You might not be good at a 9-5 job for 5 days a week in a year. You might not like that job, and not just good at that type of activity. Maybe you are better at having some property and being able to sell it for more than you obtained it for. People have different talents, and so some people are more aligned with either one or the other, and some people are of both sides. We would be telling those who are better at capital gains activity that we don’t like that and we think they should be punished for their ability (if not outright luck). Same would hold with those who do income activities.

The 47% and 2012 Election

Well, the 2012 Presidential Election is “done”. We have some results in. Here is something that I found funny. Mitt Romney made some comments about the 47% of American citizens that do not pay income tax and receive benefits from the federal government. Here is something interesting from the election results for President in 2012.

51% of the popular vote went to Barack Obama, which is about 62,262,675 votes. 48% of the popular vote went to Mitt Romney, which is about  58,894,887 votes. Now here is what is funny, Mitt Romney made some comments about 47% of Americans, and Romney happen to get 48% of the popular vote. So 121,157,562 cast a vote for either Obama or Romney, and of those, 48% went to Romney. So did the 47% vote for Romeny and Romney received 1% of the vote from the 53% of Americans that do pay an income tax? Maybe some of Romney’s friends who only have a capital gains tax instead of having to pay the income tax, all voted for him and some of the 53% voted for him as well, at least 1% of the 53% who pay income tax.
Funny how Romney got the 47% he talked about and got 1% more. Looks like that video did nothing wrong and spoke the truth, and the people voted for him for it. Too bad he did not say what was needed to get the majority of Americans, those 53% that pay income tax. So out of 100 American citizens, 53 of them pay income tax and 47 don’t pay income tax. Romney received 48 of the votes and Obama received 51 of the votes, and other people received 2 of the votes, out of an assumed 100 votes total.
Here are the simple ideas in basic logical form of a syllogism: All those who do not pay income tax (i.e. 47%) are voted for Mitt Romney in the Popular vote. All those who voted for Barack Obama in the Popular vote are those who do pay income tax (i.e. 53%). Some of those who voted for Mitt Romney in the Popular vote are those who do pay income tax (i.e. 53%) and Some of those who did not vote for Mitt Romney in the Popular vote are those who do pay income tax (i.e. 53%).